tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32085591.post8160523428281340076..comments2023-11-07T21:12:19.852-06:00Comments on Wyrdsmiths: Women Rule and You're Scared of Us...tate hallawayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06631759014508937940noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32085591.post-28319045670865270182007-09-28T13:08:00.000-05:002007-09-28T13:08:00.000-05:00That works for me, and I honestly don't have an o...That works for me, and I honestly don't have an opinion on the Fangs Fur & Fey or Asimov stuff is going on. It was the conflating of those with the private conversation and the title that concerned me. Oh, and absolutely, jealousy among genres is something that happens frequently.Kelly McCulloughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06399122960869198042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32085591.post-15685891391305303632007-09-28T12:47:00.000-05:002007-09-28T12:47:00.000-05:00I'm happy to change the title, because honestly my...I'm happy to change the title, because honestly my issue isn't necessarily all tied up in gender (though, as I mentioned that seems to be in the air a lot lately, and I wanted to comment on that.) The issue is more that people (writers?) seem to get awfully jealous of whoever the popular kids are these days. And these days those kids are the "women" (though many of the writers are, in fact, men) of urban fantasy/paranormal romance.lydamorehousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03193266008038604325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32085591.post-41945567152811117682007-09-28T11:30:00.000-05:002007-09-28T11:30:00.000-05:00But I don't agree with the bit about dissing roman...But I don't agree with the bit about dissing romance. I see people saying that they are unhappy about being characterized as romance when in fact they don't believe that they are writing romance. I see people saying that their books don't conform to the tropes of romance and so being characterized as romance my be bad for their careers. And I see people who suspect that the readership overlap of their target audience and what they are occasionally characterized as not being a big one, and someone could certainly infer dissing from some of the language involved, but I think that's peripheral at best, and probably not intended to diss.<BR/><BR/>And it was not the issue of addressing sexism by either gender which causes me problems with the title. It was the implication of the "You're Scared of Us" that it is you=men that are scared of us=women, which strikes me as quite troubling considering the mix of genders in the discussion.Kelly McCulloughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06399122960869198042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32085591.post-17783860932033525352007-09-28T11:19:00.000-05:002007-09-28T11:19:00.000-05:00Well, I didn't mention the particular discussion b...Well, I didn't mention the particular discussion by name because I agree that it mostly appears to be something else. However, just because women are dissing romance (and men are supporting it) doesn't mean the discussion doesn't smack a bit of sexism to me.lydamorehousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03193266008038604325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32085591.post-62414832044850760472007-09-28T10:57:00.000-05:002007-09-28T10:57:00.000-05:00I haven't read the Asimov's mess or the Fangs, Fur...I haven't read the Asimov's mess or the Fangs, Fur & Fey thing, but I have read the private discussion and I don't know that I'd characterize it at all the same way as you have here. It looks to me more like the discussion is centered around a number of writers who are concerned about the way their work is being marketed and reviewed and sometimes the way it is shelved. And, in turn, whether those things are likely to hurt their careers. <BR/><BR/>Since mismarketing or misshelving can kill a career, I think those are entirely valid concerns regardless of whether or not they are correct in this particular case. I am not one of the people with the concerns I mention, but I don't feel comfortable with this characterization of the discussion and felt I had to address it. Also, since many of the writers in question <B>are</B> women, I am troubled by the title of this post.<BR/><BR/>I personally am delighted by the attention the WebMage book have gotten from the Romance press and though I've let my membership lapse, I was once a member of Romance Writers of America, which is hands down the best writing organization out there. So, I don't disagree at all with the wonders of the world of romance, just the direction of this post in regards to the discussion in question.Kelly McCulloughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06399122960869198042noreply@blogger.com